tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post2244808015659426436..comments2023-05-07T00:48:54.638-07:00Comments on Incongruous Circumspection: I am No Longer A ChristianIncongruous Circumspectionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-91346073375976980422012-03-06T21:13:39.155-08:002012-03-06T21:13:39.155-08:00Love, love. LOVE this!! Wanna come write my blog ...Love, love. LOVE this!! Wanna come write my blog for me?? Once again, you put into words what I have been struggling to verbalize! Keep it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-33901951315278966092011-12-09T16:59:59.787-08:002011-12-09T16:59:59.787-08:00Wow indeed. That's quite a list of negative de...Wow indeed. That's quite a list of negative definitions. With a denial to negate each as well! Nicely thought-provoking. Has me wondering though: what does it mean "to be a Christian" to you? You state: " I believe in Jesus Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit. " What do you mean by "believe in"? Believe in the existence of? Believe in them to take some action yourAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00761075572571327448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-30681640528410587112011-07-11T09:53:07.272-07:002011-07-11T09:53:07.272-07:00Wow! This is so much of what I've been process...Wow! This is so much of what I've been processing over the past few years and some of it since I fled the movement 14 years ago. Thank you so much for writing this!Erika Martin - Stampin' Mamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15654013636892916062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-79301943919099755202011-07-04T22:35:17.285-07:002011-07-04T22:35:17.285-07:00I'm thinking that I might be a bit "lost&...I'm thinking that I might be a bit "lost" myself....and quite honestly, I'm liking it that way!<br /><br />Cindy@Baptist Taliban MemoirsCindy Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17942963391717614449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-35000741429159835372011-07-01T09:56:07.302-07:002011-07-01T09:56:07.302-07:00"You're". Doh! My English is havin..."You're". Doh! My English is having issues today.Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-46141772564753065552011-07-01T09:55:21.051-07:002011-07-01T09:55:21.051-07:00Thanks for stopping by! I look forward to you'...Thanks for stopping by! I look forward to you're insight, as well.Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-22613316738594512162011-07-01T09:52:15.992-07:002011-07-01T09:52:15.992-07:00Hi,
Found you via a comment you left at Permission...Hi,<br />Found you via a comment you left at Permission to Live. <br /><br />I like this post ... probably because I've written a list similar to this one ... but haven't shared it publicly yet. Maybe I will one of these days ...<br /><br />I look forward to exploring the rest of your site.Janet Oberholtzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10172668433266809905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-32028017264045104612011-06-29T10:41:05.293-07:002011-06-29T10:41:05.293-07:00I understand what you're saying, Ouisi, except...I understand what you're saying, Ouisi, except for the party-line part? I hold no party-line and would be an outcast in any socio-political group, as well as any religious group other than one who is seeking the truth about freedom in Christ, as well as who God is.<br /><br />I am always searching and studying. My favorite pastime is to look deeper into what people consider as heresy. ThatIncongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-38761584314352059472011-06-29T10:30:37.924-07:002011-06-29T10:30:37.924-07:00Most early heresies had to do with your beliefs ab...Most early heresies had to do with your beliefs about the precise state of the divine and human nature/s of Christ within himself and in communion with the Father and the Spirit, as told in terms of Aristotelian metaphysics. Now the worst thing you can get wrong is judging which social liberties are good and which are bad.<br /><br />Times change in a couple of thousand years. Seems like our Ouisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057354098747007167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-74818533284014324802011-06-27T16:57:09.609-07:002011-06-27T16:57:09.609-07:00Thank you so much for writing this. Not sure how ...Thank you so much for writing this. Not sure how I missed it before, but I swear I am dealing with this right now. If this is what it means to be a Christian, I don't want it. And this is all part and parcel of what I've been told shows "fruit" in the lives of Christians. So... now what? I want to reject it all, honestly. It would be easiest to just throw it all out. <br raehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14659411240699818388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-70946854249100284632011-06-26T23:20:10.652-07:002011-06-26T23:20:10.652-07:00Mr. Green Eyes. Thank you so much. I'm glad ...Mr. Green Eyes. Thank you so much. I'm glad that my writing could encourage just one person in life. I am happy now.<br /><br />Keep letting me know how your journey s going. I'm, really very interested.<br /><br />Also, I must add one thing:<br /><br />If tithing is required, I am lost.<br /><br />Yep. That should be obvious that I think the idea of tithing is nothing more than a Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-60051869279982111292011-06-26T23:13:06.292-07:002011-06-26T23:13:06.292-07:00Violet, any ideas on how to mitigate that problem?...Violet, any ideas on how to mitigate that problem?Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-88764796889459839722011-06-26T23:12:17.686-07:002011-06-26T23:12:17.686-07:00Again, Laura, I can't fully agree with you. I...Again, Laura, I can't fully agree with you. If you look at all the references in the Bible that you defend, on the Holy Spirit, you will see that the Christian life is very experiential. Guided by the Holy Spirit within us.<br /><br />(Liberty...I am a very thought-FULL individual and understand that I cannot see, feel, hear, or sense the Holy Spirit, but rather, I just choose to have faithIncongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-46766031906345901372011-06-26T22:56:58.963-07:002011-06-26T22:56:58.963-07:00Thanks, Retha. I really appreciate your response....Thanks, Retha. I really appreciate your response. Frankly, the only people I don't give a chance are those that have hurt me in the past and those that give deference to those that hurt me in the past. And then, forgetting about me, those that portend to be helpful and yet hurt others, especially the "smallest of these." <br /><br />I have no time of day for them.<br /><br />Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-26317698212964867822011-06-26T08:58:43.371-07:002011-06-26T08:58:43.371-07:00Can I just give you a gigantic hug for articulatin...Can I just give you a gigantic hug for articulating almost *exactly* what I've wanted to say for so long? You've covered all the bases I would have, except a few:<br /><br />If being a Christian means that I must treat every non-Christian as either an enemy or potential convert, then I am lost.<br /><br />If being a Christian means that I have to believe in "prosperity theology,"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-66798019518122888332011-06-24T21:06:41.216-07:002011-06-24T21:06:41.216-07:00There are too many viewpoints from various people ...There are too many viewpoints from various people on what it means to be a Christian. It can be very confusing. This is why I usually just get lost in the shuffle behind the entire matter. Regarding Christianity, there seems to be too many rules and not enough love, or too much love and not enough rules. No one seems to know how to be balanced anymore. This is why Christianity can be a murky mess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-3373190076725006822011-06-24T05:54:29.926-07:002011-06-24T05:54:29.926-07:00He says He watches over His word to perform it
Jer...He says He watches over His word to perform it<br />Jer 1:12 <br /><br />I know a guy who believe that God is giving Him scripture...that not everything God said was written down..<br />can you even imagine where this is going!<br />I was in an abusive church for 10years, and I have to say Im glad He decided to write it, cause when I decided to REALLY find out who God is...what He's like, I im4everHishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02778247826907563553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-5546093083684166412011-06-23T08:42:09.321-07:002011-06-23T08:42:09.321-07:00Ask questions, as Liberty said. And allow Christia...Ask questions, as Liberty said. And allow Christianity to also be one of the sources which you consider for answers. <br /><br />If, for example, you check out data presented by Ehrman on the gospels, also check out data by William Lane Craig.<br /><br />Some atheists tell me that they loved God with heart and soul before becoming atheists. None say they loved God with their minds.(Matt 22:37) <Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-31545035357207226112011-06-23T08:26:26.038-07:002011-06-23T08:26:26.038-07:00I'll take issue with that one im4everHis. God...I'll take issue with that one im4everHis. God doesn't have to watch over his word. It is a part of him. We see that stated in the book of John. Insert the word "Bible" in the first chapter in the place of "The Word" and the whole passage falls apart.<br /><br />I don't believe God much cared for or even expected us to write it all down. That we did write some Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-6529937469313337292011-06-23T08:19:29.946-07:002011-06-23T08:19:29.946-07:00LOL but the only one I disagree with is
If being ...LOL but the only one I disagree with is <br />If being a Christian means that I am required to believe in the complete 'inerrantness' and infallibility of the "Word of God", i.e., the Bible, I am lost<br /><br />I think God is big enough to watch over His word, to make it say what He NEEDS it to say.<br /><br />Its our job to figure out... (pray and seek God about) the meaning..im4everHishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02778247826907563553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-92218568449547198822011-06-23T08:09:16.680-07:002011-06-23T08:09:16.680-07:00People are more beautiful if they just grow and li...People are more beautiful if they just grow and live as they were designed rather that being twisted and broken into someone else's idea of how they should be.<br /><br />I completely agree...but not with everything you said.<br />I agree in the sense that being a Christian is believing in God...In Jesus, that He came lived died...sinless for us, God in the flesh took our sins.<br /><br />I im4everHishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02778247826907563553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-40109838345923891602011-06-23T07:57:09.813-07:002011-06-23T07:57:09.813-07:00And that is the color of life. People that disagr...And that is the color of life. People that disagree. Vehemently or otherwise. Precisely my point in writing this.<br /><br />Pretty much just stating that I may or may not be settled on one thing or anything, but my reasoned approach is no better or worse than the approach of another. Unless of course, someone is being hurt. Then, I will not allow any dissension on the matter whatsoever. <Incongruous Circumspectionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16232186225573312896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-70633675638933451032011-06-23T07:44:06.265-07:002011-06-23T07:44:06.265-07:00Um, Brian, I still disagree. It's like telling...Um, Brian, I still disagree. It's like telling a black man that it's not being black that's the problem, it's having an afro. Or like telling a woman that it's not being a woman that's the problem, it's having breasts. It's people like you who make things so hard for gay people in this country - you are telling them that for them, love is sinful. I think that'sLibby Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562805251128821984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-31313551538105580132011-06-23T07:35:31.806-07:002011-06-23T07:35:31.806-07:00I'll stand my ground on that point, however. ...I'll stand my ground on that point, however. Its not the "being" gay thats at issue, its the practice of it that is. <br /><br />I often see something I want. It might even run through my mind to take it, while nobody is looking. But I don't take it. If I haven't taken it, I haven't sinned, right?Brian J. Ackermannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00473833735327472074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4359713856816206512.post-39330083498336687472011-06-23T07:27:00.628-07:002011-06-23T07:27:00.628-07:00You go, Incongruous! I walked the same walk you ar...You go, Incongruous! I walked the same walk you are now, and it was not easy! Having to rethink everything you were ever taught sucks. I'd actually like to recommend a couple of books, if I may. First and foremost, Jesus Interrupted, by Bart Ehrman. Next, The Bible Unearthed, by Finkelstein and Silberman, and Who Wrote The Bible? by Friedman. These books helped me sort through what I believedLibby Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562805251128821984noreply@blogger.com