Nope.
Update (3/7/2012): WOW! I don't know what to say. I'm flattered! This post has hit the viral standard on Incongruous Circumspection and is very quickly nearing the most popular post of all time here. I know the subject is very popular and people at all levels of faith want a definitive answer to this question. I think I gave a good one. Please feel free to react in the comments below.
Update (3/7/2012): WOW! I don't know what to say. I'm flattered! This post has hit the viral standard on Incongruous Circumspection and is very quickly nearing the most popular post of all time here. I know the subject is very popular and people at all levels of faith want a definitive answer to this question. I think I gave a good one. Please feel free to react in the comments below.
I love blog posts that are shorter than the their own title. They make me smile.
ReplyDeleteAnd my comment is longer than your post. From what I've seen concerning blog commenting etiquette, that's rude. So sorry for being rude. ;)
As a Christian Egal, my answer would have been:
"No, not unilaterally. But mutually, according to Ephesians 5:21 then yes, she submits to him and he submits to her. And they are equal."
We Christian egals get blamed for 'hating submission'. We actually don't. We simply promote the submission that Jesus teaches and what Paul is trying to get across as he deals, head on, with Aristotle's Household Codes in Ephesians 5.
Luke 22:24 A dispute also arose among them as to which of them was considered to be greatest. 25 Jesus said to them, “The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and those who exercise authority over them call themselves Benefactors. 26 But you are not to be like that. Instead, the greatest among you should be like the youngest, and the one who rules like the one who serves.
(Again, sorry for long comment. Your post says it all. Sometimes I just get inspired to ramble a bit.)
'nuff said.
ReplyDeleteInspired...
ReplyDeleteOr, to quote Almanzo Wilder regarding having the word obey in the wedding vows... "...it's just something that women say. I never knew a woman who did it, or any decent man who wanted her to." :)
ReplyDeleteYou, sir, are brilliant.
ReplyDeleteAndrea Grace, you haven't met my wife, have you? Let's keep it that way. I like being considered "brilliant"! Hehe....
ReplyDeleteMy husband told me, very early in our marriage, that if I ever did the whole submissive thing he would leave. Therefore, the only thing I have ever submitted to my husband in is his desire to have me not submit.
ReplyDeleteIt is fun to see the look on fundamentalist-evangelical friends faces when I try to explain that one!
lol LOVE THIS POST
ReplyDeletel.o.v.e you!!!
ReplyDeletea month later...
ReplyDeleteeverytime i read someone promoting submission, i think of my boyfriend [partner? 8 years together. but i don't believe in marriage thru a government, so legally... anyway]
someone once told my boyfriend, directly and rather rudely, that his ENTIRE problem in life is that he "doesn't make [me] submit". that if he "made [me] submit", everything else would be fixed.
my guy just blinked, then said "i'd kill her in a week if she did that. probably less. *ONE* of use has to be decisive and able to plan, and it just isn't me."
[i'd just like to say, he didn't mean "murder" me - he meant we'd have no food and starve to death, or he'd mess up my meds, or otherwise be the initiator of my accidental death]
or, as my dad asked "had this idiot MET [me]?"
hehe